((Am I the only one who looked at that ancient, crumbly bed which happened to be right near the pond - the pond which was visible from Jack’s front door - and wondered ‘Could that have been Jack’s bed from before he drowned?”))
**Contains Guardians of Childhood book spoilers**
I just finished reading Nicholas St. North and the Battle of the Nightmare King and I came across an interesting parallel.
In the book, Pitch uses and Enslavement Charm to turn Ombric and North into porcelain dolls, forcing them to lie and watch as he prepares to steal the piece of the Moon Clipper that they had gone in search for to stop Pitch. In the book it mentions multiple times that North couldn’t so much as blink without Pitch telling him to, and that he had never felt so helpless in his life, despite growing up with basically no parents/friends/family/support system of any kind.
So I just find it very interesting that in the movie North paints himself on matryoshka dolls. Even more interesting, he paints Jack on a doll as well, like he’s using the doll to show affection and support -using it to help Jack find his center. Because he doesn’t want Jack to feel as helpless and immobile as he did, but he also doesn’t want to take the journey of self-discovery away from Jack.
can we just talk about how Pitch’s shadows dissipate into a snowflake pattern after they slam Jack into the wall god damn what else did I miss in this movie
//Oh my God.
I’m now convinced more than ever that Pitch is William Joyce’s autobiographical tortured alter ego.
You know why?
- "Mary Katherine," the name of William Joyce’s daughter, can be shortened to "MK," and in fact was, in Joyce’s film "Epic," based on his Leafmen book.
- "Emily Jane," the name of Pitch’s daughter in the GoC books, can be and often is shortened to "EJ."
- Ergo two anglicized combinations of common, dignified but relatively plain, girls’ names, for daughters lost, or thought lost, prematurely to death, by fathers who were trapped in their own grief.
But fathers who strove to go on doing the greater good (Joyce by writing inspirational children’s books, Kozmotis by guarding the Prison Planet). And Joyce’s biggest FEAR is perhaps, if I may be so bold as to venture a guess, to be trapped FOREVER in his grief, to lose his BELIEF in the good in this world, because of losing his precious child. The way that it happened to Kozmotis when he involuntarily became Pitch.
Pitch is what William Joyce most fears becoming. And who he, I hope, pities most.
How very poignantly sad and strangely beautiful that is.
I hope Mr. Joyce gives Pitch a chance to regain the selfhood that he lost. I hope Kozmotis triumphs.
I had to come back and type this despite it being 2 in the morning because wow.
Interesting bit- Jack (Or Jackson as the name literally means Jack’s son) means ‘In favor of God.’ Manny is sort of a God figure I guess? In which case the name has to do with the movie. Also, I believe the Hebrew translation of Jack means the same as the Hebrew translation of Jamie, though I’m not completely sure.
Elsa + Jack Frost Parallels
tags » #i like how this shows us how their powers work respectively #elsa’s power comes from within #she holds the magic personally #while jack draws his powers from the environment #and eventually/more specifically #his power comes from the belief of children #elsa’s magic is internal #jack’s is external #it kinda shows that elsa had to find her strength within herself whereas jack had to draw his strength from the faith of others
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I started to listen to the ROTG soundtrack, and when this track came on, I realized that it has the music used from Sandy’s funeral and from the scene where the Guardians send Jack away. I think that’s really interesting because when you think about both scenes, the Guardians are both mourning in a way. They mourn the loss of Sandy because of his death, and they mourn the loss of Jack because they send him away thinking that he betrayed them. OMG! This movie and the soundtrack gives me the feels!
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Does Jack Betray the Guardians during the Easter Fiasco?
Okay, so this has been bugging me for quite a while, but like everyone else, I believe that Easter being ruined was not Jack’s fault, and I did not like the fact that the soundtrack for that scene was called “Jack Betrays,” but after I watched the movie again, I started to think about the scene and what the betrayal in the soundtrack title might be referring too.
Of course, we all know that it wasn’t Jack’s fault that he followed the voice into Pitch’s lair for a number of reasons. 1) he spent 300 years alone without knowing who he was or why he was there, so when you hear someone calling out your name when there’s no one else around and when that voice sounds incredibly familiar, you would probably want to go investigate. 2) It’s instinct to follow a familiar voice calling your name. Seriously, who among us doesn’t automatically turn their head when they think someone is calling their name? 3) Jack had no idea he was going into Pitch’s lair or what was going to happen. If anything, he probably thought that he was going to go check out where the voice was coming from and then rush back to the Guardians before anything happened.
But then we get to the part where Jack and Baby Tooth go into Pitch’s lair. It’s pretty clear thanks to awesome animation that once Jack sees the fairies and the memories he knows they just walked into Pitch’s lair. However, the voice stops calling for Jack, and Jack immediately focuses on getting the fairies out. However, when he is about to free them, that is when the voice starts calling out to him again, and Jack starts to search for his memories instead of helping the fairies.
The script even says that he forgets about his duties to the Guardians, the fairies, and everything else. Now this is where it gets a little confusing because we all seem to forget this little moment here when Jack actually digs for his memories. Jack didn’t know that he was being led into Pitch’s lair before he found the fairies, but…when he does figure it out, he puts everything on hold to find his memories. Like I said, the script even says that he basically forgets about everything to find his memories. So, this is where I began to wonder if this is what the track title meant by “Jack Betrays.”
First, let’s look at the meaning of betray: to lead astray, to abandon in a time of need, and to deliver to an enemy by treachery. I’ve even said that a betrayal is something that is intentional and malicious. It can’t happen by accident. It has to be something that you know that you’re doing or are about to do but do it anyway not caring about how the other person feels.
Now, I know Jack doesn’t have a malicious bone in his body, but…he still goes to intentionally search for his memories in the piles knowing that he needs to get the fairies out and that he needs to get back to the Guardians like he promised. However he doesn’t stop to think “Wait! I shouldn’t do this! I promised them I’d be back, and I need to get Tooth’s fairies out of here!” He continues to search for his memories until Pitch steps in. So in a way, I feel like this is what the track title refers to…that Jack betrays the Guardians by abandoning them when he goes to search for his memories, and think about what happens in the scene after, when the Guardians are all jumping on Jack and not letting him explain, he doesn’t even try to defend himself because he knows that what he did was wrong. In a way, he himself feels that he betrayed them by looking for his memories.
Okay, I just gave my opinion. Now, I’m really curious as to what everyone else thinks. So…thoughts?
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